[PEDA] Many similar Sheet Symbols

Fri Nov 3 12:52:10 CST 2006

Yes. That was part of it. The other part is the specific wording of the
quote itself. Believe it or not, I have a sideline background in
linguistics and I grew up with a mother who should have been an English
teacher (but raised five kids and got degrees in Zoology and Psychology
in her off time instead). The construction of the quoted phrase is
suspect to me, as it has too much in common with the language used by
ISO, which is all about management making generalistic plans that sound
snappy to potential customers and investors, and too often too little
about proving that they can or have actually implement(ed) the technical
content in their promotional materials (internal or external). It boils
down to subterfuge. The old snake-oil game. One which the Protel machine
seems too good at (read their promos over the years and the broken or
empty (see 3D modeler, circa P99SE) content they have actually delivered
time and time again) 

"See, we have this test plan, and therefore it is a feature" doesn't
seem all that believe-able a claim to me. And in the end, that's all the
quote really says. Perhaps a vague starting point, but vague starting
points are like a college student's "cool" thoughts when high...they
ain't called "pipe-dreams" for nothin'...

No offense intended to anyone here...I get it, okay?...I'm just doing my
job as a responsible engineer, "technologist", and all-around
muck-raker. Not much happy-go-lucky left in a world where I see too many
Neo-Roman con-artists making their fortunes off the world's future. This
is one where I'm not getting off the high horse. I use it, and I'm not
gonna stop, but I reserve the right to force thought beyond "civil
obedience" to a mercantile operation that's been gulped by a holding
company. Look at the board. Excpet for a couple, they're all
wall-street.

Regards,

aj

Oooh...technology, now that's an overlooked milk-cow! -some scheming
Wall-street type, circa 1995

>-----Original Message-----
>From: PEDA-bounces at techservinc.com 
>[mailto:PEDA-bounces at techservinc.com] On Behalf Of Brad Velander
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 1:25 PM
>To: Protel EDA Discussion List
>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Many similar Sheet Symbols
>
>Andrew,
>	I took it that your issues were inferred by the quote. 
>After taking the time to develop and qualify the test, few 
>would then not run it or ignore the fact it failed the test 
>and still call the function a feature. Maybe I am too isolated 
>from a marketing/sales department these days? I am starting to 
>once again think they must surely think similarly as we do!
>
>Sincerely,
>Brad Velander
>Senior PCB Designer
>Northern Airborne Technology
>#14 - 1925 Kirschner Road,
>Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7.
>tel (250) 763-2232 ext. 225
>fax (250) 762-3374
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: ajenkins at avtron.com [mailto:ajenkins at avtron.com]
>Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 9:01 AM
>To: PEDA at techservinc.com
>Subject: Re: [PEDA] Many similar Sheet Symbols
>
>
>I'm not sure I agree re the quote. That sounds like it has an 
>awfully big conceptual loophole, and I wouldn't be surprised 
>if it was actually originated by some ISO officer. 
>
>A plan to test is, by itself, only a plan to test, not 
>sufficient proof that the test has either been performed or 
>that it has passed said test if it was conducted...
>
>The quote ought to read " It can be useful to adopt the 
>attitude that a feature doesn't really exist until it has been 
>thoroughly tested and proven to in fact be a feature"
>
>aj
>
>
> 
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